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		<title>By: Kristin Hovde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin Hovde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet has definitely become a must-have in the business world. However, I think there will always be a need for trade shows because more relationships can be built in a traditional trade show setting, whereas it is very difficult to build those relationships on a computer screen. Face-to-face contact is much more reassuring to potential buyers instead of talking over the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet has definitely become a must-have in the business world. However, I think there will always be a need for trade shows because more relationships can be built in a traditional trade show setting, whereas it is very difficult to build those relationships on a computer screen. Face-to-face contact is much more reassuring to potential buyers instead of talking over the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Galen De Young ( @GalenDY )</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galen De Young ( @GalenDY )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Bob.

Thanks for the insightful comments. I think all too often companies go into trade shows with multiple rationales (e.g., brand awareness, lead gen, press/analyst relations, etc.), but on the back end, things only get evaluated in terms of the number of leads and the cost per lead. That can lead to poor decisions. I especially liked your last comment about how a good marketing VP needs to set expectation of his management team appropriately for honest assessments after. Spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Bob.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insightful comments. I think all too often companies go into trade shows with multiple rationales (e.g., brand awareness, lead gen, press/analyst relations, etc.), but on the back end, things only get evaluated in terms of the number of leads and the cost per lead. That can lead to poor decisions. I especially liked your last comment about how a good marketing VP needs to set expectation of his management team appropriately for honest assessments after. Spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sullebarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sullebarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with trade shows is that the Marketing Dept pays for them, and executive management judges them based on the number of leads they produce and whether or not those leads drive new business.

After many years, I&#039;ve come to a view that trade shows serve 4 purposes:
(1) Brand Building / Awareness
(2) Customer &amp; Prospect Entertainment
(3) Analyst Relations
(4) Lead Generation

Trade Shows would be a lot less controversial if the cost was allocated out to the functional depts that are most appropriate.

(1), (3) and (4) are clearly marketing activities and should be paid out of the marketing budget. (The Marketing VP should be budgeting funds to achieve each of those objectives.)
(2) Discussions with (a) customers we already have, or (b) prospects we are already engaged with, is a sales expense, not a marketing expense. It is no different that taking a prospect out to dinner. Meetings with current customers can just as easily be done at a hotel suite located close to the convention center.   It is easier to have a quality conversation that way. Any conversation you have a show floor is hampered by noise, end up being more superficial, and almost always ends with &quot;let&#039;s get together soon&quot;.  If sales is unwilling to fund their portion of the event, or cannot produce a calendar of meetings, then the presence at the event should be scaled back.

A good Marketing VP sets the expectations of his management team appropriately. &quot;Guys, I am allocating 50% of this expense to brand awareness, 25% to press/analyst relations, and 25% to lead generation.&quot;  That sets the table and levels the table for an honest assessment of lead gen ROI when the event is over and done with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with trade shows is that the Marketing Dept pays for them, and executive management judges them based on the number of leads they produce and whether or not those leads drive new business.</p>
<p>After many years, I&#8217;ve come to a view that trade shows serve 4 purposes:<br />
(1) Brand Building / Awareness<br />
(2) Customer &amp; Prospect Entertainment<br />
(3) Analyst Relations<br />
(4) Lead Generation</p>
<p>Trade Shows would be a lot less controversial if the cost was allocated out to the functional depts that are most appropriate.</p>
<p>(1), (3) and (4) are clearly marketing activities and should be paid out of the marketing budget. (The Marketing VP should be budgeting funds to achieve each of those objectives.)<br />
(2) Discussions with (a) customers we already have, or (b) prospects we are already engaged with, is a sales expense, not a marketing expense. It is no different that taking a prospect out to dinner. Meetings with current customers can just as easily be done at a hotel suite located close to the convention center.   It is easier to have a quality conversation that way. Any conversation you have a show floor is hampered by noise, end up being more superficial, and almost always ends with &#8220;let&#8217;s get together soon&#8221;.  If sales is unwilling to fund their portion of the event, or cannot produce a calendar of meetings, then the presence at the event should be scaled back.</p>
<p>A good Marketing VP sets the expectations of his management team appropriately. &#8220;Guys, I am allocating 50% of this expense to brand awareness, 25% to press/analyst relations, and 25% to lead generation.&#8221;  That sets the table and levels the table for an honest assessment of lead gen ROI when the event is over and done with.</p>
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		<title>By: Werbemittel</title>
		<link>http://www.proteusb2b.com/b2b-marketing-blog/index.php/trade-show-benefits/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Werbemittel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there&#039;s still a place for trade shows, but it is certainly getting less. Online trade shows will increase which I am all for. Great post, keep up the good work!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there&#8217;s still a place for trade shows, but it is certainly getting less. Online trade shows will increase which I am all for. Great post, keep up the good work!!</p>
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		<title>By: DavidCastroFlorida</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidCastroFlorida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.  Im not sold on soft benefits, per se, but I agree that they are in there somewhere.  My costs as an enterprise ISV typically are higher than most (due to the need for product demos), so my justifications typically are economic-based.  And if anyone ever comes up with a real, effective show-in-a-box concept, look me up :)

More of my opinion on trade shows here:
http://davidcastroflorida.blogspot.com/2008/05/trade-shows-can-work.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.  Im not sold on soft benefits, per se, but I agree that they are in there somewhere.  My costs as an enterprise ISV typically are higher than most (due to the need for product demos), so my justifications typically are economic-based.  And if anyone ever comes up with a real, effective show-in-a-box concept, look me up <img src='http://www.proteusb2b.com/b2b-marketing-blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More of my opinion on trade shows here:<br />
<a href="http://davidcastroflorida.blogspot.com/2008/05/trade-shows-can-work.html" rel="nofollow">http://davidcastroflorida.blogspot.com/2008/05/trade-shows-can-work.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pinnacle Trade Show Displays</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinnacle Trade Show Displays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Mike, I saw your comment over at the Lonely Marketer and followed it over to this post. I like your writing style, and agree entirely (I&#039;m bias - my job depends on trade shows!). The internet offers some nice alternatives (and competition) but I don&#039;t think it will ever replace trade shows. Yes, trade shows are hard work, and they can be expensive, but if you do them right, they pay off (and you don&#039;t have to spend a fortune on your trade show display - check out our website). There are also the intangibles that you point out, but I think it&#039;s important that the real numbers add up too.
By the way, I love the reference to being at your kid&#039;s school career day presentation and following the &quot;cool job&quot; parents. Hey, be proud of what you do, whatever it is - as long as it puts the food on the table!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Mike, I saw your comment over at the Lonely Marketer and followed it over to this post. I like your writing style, and agree entirely (I&#8217;m bias &#8211; my job depends on trade shows!). The internet offers some nice alternatives (and competition) but I don&#8217;t think it will ever replace trade shows. Yes, trade shows are hard work, and they can be expensive, but if you do them right, they pay off (and you don&#8217;t have to spend a fortune on your trade show display &#8211; check out our website). There are also the intangibles that you point out, but I think it&#8217;s important that the real numbers add up too.<br />
By the way, I love the reference to being at your kid&#8217;s school career day presentation and following the &#8220;cool job&#8221; parents. Hey, be proud of what you do, whatever it is &#8211; as long as it puts the food on the table!</p>
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		<title>By: John Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are quite right: the Internet doesn&#039;t bring professional pride, perspective and relationship building.

However a trade show is costly:
A company with brandname, spending $100,000 for generating 120 leads over 3 days on an industry specific trade show with several people. 
Or +$800 / lead. And these leads still needs to be followed-up, qualified, nurtured, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are quite right: the Internet doesn&#8217;t bring professional pride, perspective and relationship building.</p>
<p>However a trade show is costly:<br />
A company with brandname, spending $100,000 for generating 120 leads over 3 days on an industry specific trade show with several people.<br />
Or +$800 / lead. And these leads still needs to be followed-up, qualified, nurtured, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Marn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Marn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one would dispute the value of the Internet. But none of your staccato bullet points address the theme of the post. Trade shows offer an element of professional pride, perspective, and relationship building that the Internet does not, any more than a pile of brochures would. While the value of those things can be debated, their existence cannot. 

I can understand why a vendor of Internet lead-management services would be quick to bury the traditional trade show. But claiming its demise is short-sighted and premature.

A fine restaurant meal is more costly and more hassle than ordering out, too. But strangely enough, people still do it. I guess that &quot;experience&quot; thing still makes a difference, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one would dispute the value of the Internet. But none of your staccato bullet points address the theme of the post. Trade shows offer an element of professional pride, perspective, and relationship building that the Internet does not, any more than a pile of brochures would. While the value of those things can be debated, their existence cannot. </p>
<p>I can understand why a vendor of Internet lead-management services would be quick to bury the traditional trade show. But claiming its demise is short-sighted and premature.</p>
<p>A fine restaurant meal is more costly and more hassle than ordering out, too. But strangely enough, people still do it. I guess that &#8220;experience&#8221; thing still makes a difference, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: John Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my view the trade shows have moved to the Internet:
1) Availability:
A trade show is only once a year, whereas the Internet is available 24 x 7.

2) Complete:
Every B2B company has a website.
All data can be found by using a search engine.

3) Convenience:
No travel, no costs
On your desk, at home
All year through

It is not so much the company websites, but the search engines who have turned the Internet into this world wide 24 x 7 trade show.

This causes a new problem:
How to get leads, as people come and go on your company website.
You need to identify the visitor as much as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my view the trade shows have moved to the Internet:<br />
1) Availability:<br />
A trade show is only once a year, whereas the Internet is available 24 x 7.</p>
<p>2) Complete:<br />
Every B2B company has a website.<br />
All data can be found by using a search engine.</p>
<p>3) Convenience:<br />
No travel, no costs<br />
On your desk, at home<br />
All year through</p>
<p>It is not so much the company websites, but the search engines who have turned the Internet into this world wide 24 x 7 trade show.</p>
<p>This causes a new problem:<br />
How to get leads, as people come and go on your company website.<br />
You need to identify the visitor as much as possible.</p>
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